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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Oct 3, 2010 4:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: China > Rider

The performances of China/Rider from 1972 are tight and well played (5/16/72 being my favorite C/R of '72), but in my opinion, the transition really came into it's own during 1973 and into 1974. There are quite a few excellent performances of the pair during this period.

Many heads love the China/Rider from 12/6/73, and the transition on 2/24/74 is also certainly among the very best ever! Other excellent ones were performed on 10/19/73, 12/18/73, 5/19/74 and 6/26/74.

My personal favorite is from Des Moines on 6/16/74. No longer streamable here as the show was included in Road Trips II/3.

A profoundly good China/Rider transition was performed on 11/24/79. The band locks-in like the Allmans on this one, which also features what might be the best ever I Know You Rider...

http://www.archive.org/details/gd79-11-24.sbd.clugston.10022.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: duckpond74 Date: Oct 3, 2010 4:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: China > Rider

Cliff, we must have crossed paths in the ether . . . glad to see you share the humor and joy in that 6/16/74 version. I remember watching Jerry having a great time, laughing often during that transition jam.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Oct 3, 2010 10:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: China > Rider

Wow, that 11/24-79 is just insane ... and as an opener?!? Talk about going from zero to 110 in a few seconds flat! How often did that happen? (A China Rider opener, I mean.) I don't see a way to search for openers in the databases I have bookmarked, though there may well be one ...

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Oct 4, 2010 5:19am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: China > Rider

China> Rider was the show opener on a number of occassions:

12/10/69
12/31/69
01/10/70
01/23/70
02/05/70
02/13/70
03/23/72
03/16/73
10/31/79
11/05/79
11/24/79
07/30/83
02/11/86

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Oct 4, 2010 6:06am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: China > Rider

Well, see how much I know? Still, if that's all of them, I guess that's not exactly Bertha or Minglewood.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Oct 4, 2010 7:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: China > Rider

Yeah, that one is interesting.
(only one I've listened to so far)

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Oct 4, 2010 8:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: China > Rider

Btw that whole show is terrific. I've been listening to it off and on today. Great strong Phil, particularly in the SBD that's in the link above. Also a wonderful Terrapin (if you like Terrapins ... though aren't you in the lukewarm-on-Terrapin camp?) Am up to the PITB; still great! The only thing I've skipped was the Easy to Love You. I just can't do Brent solos -- though, actually, I like the way he blends in for this show as a whole so far.

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Oct 4, 2010 2:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: China > Rider

Passenger is also a phenomenal rendition. Almost as good as 11/24/78!

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Oct 4, 2010 8:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: China > Rider

True. (That it's phenomenal. Will check out 11-24-78.) I like Passenger, and wonder why they stopped doing it. Guess they had to make room for Hell in a Bucket ...

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Oct 4, 2010 8:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: China > Rider

shudder

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Oct 4, 2010 2:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: China > Rider

Cliff and I may not see eye to eye on the later years, but we seem to have found some common ground here. The devastating Rider is one of the most powerful ones your ever going to hear. The 74's have some of the most well played and absolutely gorgeous stretches of music, but for sheer nuclear powered devastation, this one is hard to touch.